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>> Good morning, everybody, it's wonderful to be here dear stakeholders, dear Internet community. It's a huge pleasure for me to be here to moderate together with my colleague, Mark, the main session on the Dynamic Coalition. My name is Irena, and I'm there for International Digital Policy for the Government.
We are, and this has been said many times at this forum, at a very important time for Internet Governance. The Global Digital Compact has just been adopted in September, and it's now, waiting for its implementation. Therefore we saw that it would be very fitting to discuss a bit the contributions that the Dynamic Coalitions have for the implementation of the five key objectives of the Global Digital Compact.
And just to start from equal footing, I will read them to you once again so we all know what we are talking about, and the GDC is around for quite a while so maybe someone has forgotten. They are, first, bridging digital divides and accelerating progress towards the Sustainable Development Goals.
Two, expanding digital economy, inclusion and benefits for all. Three, fostering safe, secure and exclusive digital situation, responsible, equitable and interoperable data governance and, five, enhancing AI global governance for humanity's benefit. It’s about the big picture as it's very fitting we meet here today. This session building well on last year's Dynamic Coalition main session. It was called the Internet we want, human rights in the digital space to accelerate the SDG's.
It was really dealing, it was really an ideal platform for sustainable digital development discussions. It also fits into the topic of this, it is particularly fitting for what we intend to do today is improving digital governance for the Internet we want, and with that broad picture, I hand it over to my colleague, Mark, who will tell you more about what is about to happen here on stage.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thanks for coming here at the busy hour at the IGF and everybody else who is following online. It's very good to have you with us today. As Irena said, I am sharing the moderation for this session. My background, I was with the U.K. Government on digital policy going back all the way back to 2005 and the Tunis Summit of the World Summit of the Information Society.
So I have been to most IGFs, and since leaving U.K. Government, I have continued to be engaged with the IGF community as a member of a Dynamic Coalition, ISGC, Dynamic Coalition on Internet standards, security and safety. I'm a Senior Policy Advisor with that Dynamic Coalition. And we are one of the coalitions that we will cover this morning.
So I have that role, and also I am working with EuroDIG, the European Regional IGF on the Global Digital Compact. I have been chairing the consultations undertaken by EuroDIG on that and inputting into the co‑facilitator's consultations with stakeholders on behalf of EuroDIG.
So it's great to co‑moderate this session which I think will highlight in many ways how Dynamic Coalitions do have a major potential role in the Global Digital Compact and the follow‑up following its signature in New York and entering now the implementation phase with the endorsement process and so on. So the Dynamic Coalitions do, are standing ready, really, to assist with all of that process. And what we are doing here today is providing them with the opportunity to explain how they do connect with the Global Digital Compact process and the sustainable development agenda as well.
There are 31 Dynamic Coalitions currently covering a diverse range of technology, governance, sectoral and public policy issues, opportunities and challenges. They are very focused year‑round IGF activities staffed by volunteers and we will advocate people who are interested today in following up potentially as a member of a coalition. This is very easy to do. You just sign up basically.
It will be a great opportunity for stakeholders who want to get involved through the Dynamic Coalitions. We will talk about that right at the end. But as I said, the coalitions do cover wide range of issues, and 21 of the 31 coalitions immediately stepped forward when the coordination group of Dynamic Coalitions said, you know, we are going to have a main session which is focused on the Global Digital Compact and sustainable development, they stepped forward and said, look, we are doing work which is highly relevant to the scope of the Compact and so on.
So what we are doing here today is we are going through the objectives which Irina recounted for us at the beginning one by one with representatives of the clusters of Dynamic Coalitions that have said this particular objective is the one that we are the most potentially engaged in, giving you a quick explanation of what those coalitions are for each objective.
And then we will have a little bit of a, in the panel, just a little bit of discussion for each objective, and then after that we will then really open it out to everybody who is taking part in an interactive discussion.
So save your questions, comments, reactions and anything else you want to raise with any of the or speakers or any of the representatives of the Dynamic Coalitions when we reach that part of today's session. We want to hear from you. We want to know what you think the coalitions can do perhaps more and areas where they can collaborate amongst themselves.
That's very important to bear in mind. We, you know, our coalitions that do work in a similar sectoral areas and they can usually collaborate in this whole environment of the Global Digital Compact.
So that's what we will do. I think I have probably said enough. We will want to try and define some messages and potential outcomes from this session, and Jutta who has helped to organize this session is ready with us to come and support Irina and me in wrapping up with some potential ways forward, recommendations, what we might do in terms of engaging as a coalition community with the whole GDC process.
We will do that at the end in about ten minutes. So the emphasis is on participation hearing from you. We have a download of information, we will go through that as succinctly as possible but that's a preface from hearing from you.
I hope that's all clear. Back to you, Irina, for kicking off with objectives.
>> Irina: With that we are getting started it's a pleasure to introduce June Parris who unfortunately cannot be here today but she is with online and it's really hard to present or introduce a person like June in 30 seconds which is almost impossible she is not only an experienced nurse but also engage in ground breaking research.
Lately she has worked on nutrition in pregnant women. She has extensive experience in business development, research and startup involvement as well as business support and volunteer work. I'm glad to hand it over to her and she will talk about the possible contributions of Dynamic Coalitions to Global Digital Compact's objective of bridging digital divides. Over to you, June.
We can't hear you yet so maybe there is some technical person that can help us fix the Internet and make it open, accessible, and everything else. If not, we could also wait and maybe you try to fix the technical problems and we start with our second speaker, perfect. Then I hand it over to you, mark.
>> MARK CARVELL: Let's come back to June a little later when the technical issue is resolved. So let's go to objective 2, expanding the digital economy, inclusion and benefits for all. So our speaker to describe the coalitions in this cluster is Dr. Muhammad Shabbir who is a member of Internet Society's accessibility special interest group, is a member of the Pakistan ISOC chapter and a member of the digital coalition on accessibility and disability, DCAD.
So Dr. Shabbir, can I hand over to you to describe the cluster of Dynamic Coalitions who have signaled that they are most interested in contributing to that objective? Thank you.
>> MUHAMMAD SHABBIR: Thank you very much, and good morning to everyone.
It is a privilege to address this session where we gather as representatives of the IGF's diverse and dynamic community to align our collective contributions with Global Digital Compact.
As part of this significant milestone in the global digital governance, our work announces and aligns with the Global Digital Compact and indicates inclusion, accessibility, and sustainability in the digital economy.
The specific objective I am addressing today expanding digital economy inclusion and benefits for all is foundational to achieving this vision.
The GDC demands that all stakeholders work collaboratively to dismantle barriers, promote digital equity and harness technology to empower individuals and communities. I am honored to represent our Dynamic Coalitions in our community as displayed, and these Dynamic Coalitions collectively show that if we want, we can achieve anything in the digital arena. Together these coalitions exemplify how collaborations and here experiences strengthen the IGF ecosystem and drive the implementation of GDC.
Each coalition operates with a shared ethos of inclusivity, equity and sustainability building bridges between stakeholders and addressing the critical challenges in the way of digital development.
As we all know, access to digital Financial Services is cornerstone of economic inclusivity. DCDFI has been working tirelessly to dismantle the barriers that prevent marginalized groups from participating in the digital economy.
Through discussions is the DCDFI has identified key barriers such as interoperability issues, restrictive policies, and gaps in the digital and financial literacy to harness access to equitable, affordable, and effective digital Financial Services.
Knowledge is a public good, and the DCOER is committed to making it universality and, universal and accessible by promoting openly licensed content as a foundational cornerstone of digital inclusion.
DCOER contributes to advancing the role of GDC and its principle of inclusivity, accessibility, and innovation.
Open licenses are something that in educational context provide access to different linguistic and other cultures to access to the information. And by equipping individuals with the skill to drive in the digital economy, the DC‑OER is transforming education into a catalyst for sustainable development.
In any of the digital inclusion services, it is required that persons with disabilities can also fully participate. DC‑AD has been at the forefront of advancing for accessibility in the digital platforms and policies. The vision of DC‑AD is clear where each and every person regardless of the ability has access to access the information and digital content.
This year DC‑AD is revising accessibility guidelines for IGF meetings which can be used by other organization. We have four fellows, persons with lived experience of disability in these corridors participating inclusively.
Environmental exclusion, sustainability is not just an environmental imperative. It is an economic opportunity, and DC‑E advances for the interoperability of green policies into digital governance. We all know that the work of these coalitions may seem that as if they are operating in silos, but they work together. When their work is collectively seen as a comprehensive, cohesive unit, they say that economy is driven by education, included persons with disabilities which requires green policies.
And collectively, collaboratively we can achieve the goals of GDC and Global Digital Compact and vision 2030. Thank you very much.
>> MARK CARVELL: Yes, a round of applause. Thank you very much. All of those four coalitions are doing incredibly important work, and really addressing some of the crucial challenges as well as opportunities for communities which may be marginalized or disadvantaged. And I wonder just one question, no doubt those coalitions are identifying barriers from marginalized communities from participating in the digital economy. Do you think the scope through collaboration amongst those coalitions to address and resolve those barriers, what do you think? Thank you.
>> MUHAMMAD SHABBIR: Yes. Thank you very much. That's a crucial question where the work of one DC enters into the domain of other DC and how they collaborate with one another. If I give just the example of these four coalitions where we have been collaborating, DC‑AD, which is for the rights of Persons with Disabilities, has conducted webinars and sessions with the digital DC on financial inclusion to make banking systems accessible, financial systems accessible for people with disabilities.
Similarly, today after this session DC‑AD and DC‑OER are joining in a workshop where we will be discussing how digital accessibility could be ensured for everyone many education and how this how this interacts with persons with disabilities and persons without disabilities.
Similarly, DC on environment, we cannot forget environment is something that we all work towards and we are living where we will be impacted if we don't get off it. So while we try to work in our individual domains, we try to inculcate steps where the policies and achievements, they are sustainable and green.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, that's a great example of working together on common objectives that are directly relevant to the compact. I'm sure this may well come up again in our discussion with people taking part today.
Okay. With that I hand back to you, Irina, for objective one maybe, fingers crossed?
>> IRENA SOEFFSKY: I'm checking with June Parris whether she is hearing us and whether we can hear her now.
>> JUNE PARRIS: I can hear you well. Can you hear me?
>> IRENA SOEFFSKY: We are looking forward to hearing you talk about bridging digital divides.
>> JUNE PARRIS: I am in bar paid doughs and it is 2:26 in the morning. So anyway, I will speak quickly and read the introduction for SIDSs. So I will start straight‑away. While many in the global Internet community, especially those interested in issues surrounding Internet Governance are fully engaged with and attuned to the developments surrounding WCIT, WTSA and ICANN, and the challenges and opportunities brought about by emerging issues such as Cloud Computing, social media, and mobile technology, it is becoming increasingly apparent that a greater degree of polarization and marginalization in the area of Internet policy and strategy has been slowly occurring SIDS was found in the Caribbean, Pacific and AMIS, Africa, Indian Ocean, Mediterranean and South China sea regions.
Small Island Developing States, which is SIDS, which number about 52 at the last count and which come prize approximately 60 million people are seeking a greater voice with a higher level of volume in the international discourse, especially that relating to information and communication technology and critical resource management.
According to various reports and documents published by the United Nations and other international organisations, the SIDS share several common sustainable development challenges. Small populations as low as 2000 in one state, limited resources, remoteness, susceptibility to natural disasters, vulnerable to external economic shocks, excessive dependence on international trade and extractive industries.
Indeed, internal economies of many SIDS are characterized by state monopolies, effective monopolies by MNNCs and monopolies which lead to price distortions for key goods and services.
In the ICT sector, especially, telecommunications sector, voice and data operators are most likely to be monopolized attendant issues related to non‑competitive pricing, low levels of customer service, aging infrastructure, a lack of universal accessibility with digital inclusion and digital divide scenarios often playing out to disadvantage to one or more sectors of the population.
I have experience of that, so I can say, yes, this is what's really happening. We are faced on a daily basis with severe environmental energy and natural resource management challenges, the SIDS are hard pressed to take full advantage of the potential in territory benefits and opportunities made available through emerging technology, such as Cloud Computing and on‑demand type ICT services.
Given the tremendous amount of consumption of energy, capital and natural resources that on‑demand facilities of this nature demand, in this regard and with a view to ensuring that news issues are properly ventilated amidst the debates among OECDs, G20 and BRICS countries that relate to Internet and ICT policy and strategy, telecommunications standards and tariffs, universal access and sustainable development funding approaches, it is obvious that the number and volume of SIDS voices must be elevated in the design, planning and participation and collaborative activities with the larger colleagues in order to better align and contextualize policies, positions and strategies.
If I have time, I will go on a bit. Although there are shared experiences and multiple synergies among the SIDS, it is not by my means an easy task to simply organize and facilitate this intention to raise the volume. Logistically, it is near impossible to treat with the needs of 52 countries and 60 million voices spanning thousands of miles of oceans across the globe through a single or even a series of position papers or a solitaire Conference session.
The needs and requirements of the SIDS deserve more, a crumb through which international community can hear their concerns and challenges, a form through which SIDS can sit together and collaborate to themselves, define and offer their own possible solutions to their own problems, a forum in which exchanges of opinions, views, and possible solutions can be achieved on a level and equitable playing field.
It is, therefore, incumbent upon the Internet Governance Forum and indeed the wider WSIS process to provide a dedicated space forum for the SIDS to dialogue, firstly amongst themselves and then with wider global community on a broader range of issues related to and affecting Internet policy, marginalization of critical information infrastructure resources, the economies of telecommunications service provision, telecommunications service pricing and a relationship to sustainable development and development funding, quality of service and quality of customer service practices, all of which take full consideration, the unique vulnerabilities and environmental sensitivities of these small island nations.
Therefore a dedicated and ongoing Internet Governance space for SIDS cuts across the world's major geographical regions. I will provide a useful example for not only multi‑stakeholderism but also south/south multilateralization and indeed cooperation. As small island developing states face greatest risks and challenges due to the global economic down turn, double digit recession and Euro zone crisis there is no better time now to forge and pardon this relationship.
This partnership and for the United Nations the Internet Society, the International Telecommunications Union and the other organisations to recognize and support this quantum leap forward.
So I will end there for now. If there are any questions, I will go on to the questions when the other speakers have spoken.
>> IRENA SOEFFSKY: Thank you for this very rich presentation. I think as we are running late. I will also keep my questions for later for the exchange session and then we can get into discussions later on. I'm sure there will be contributions to that because such a fundamental topic that you have been talking about, but I think to really to get us moving on, I will go to my next presenter, which is Olivier Crepin Leblond.
It is a pleasure to have you here. You are a cofounder and investor of lifestyle app. You describe yourself as a connector bringing people together to achieve great things, and what I find particularly impressive that you are dealing with all things Internet already since 1988 so you have been around forever, so to speak, experienced it all.
Therefore we are very much looking forward to you talking today about how Dynamic Coalitions can contribute to the GDC objective of fostering a safe, secure and inclusive digital space that upholds human rights. Over to you.
>> OLIVIER CREPIN LEBLOND: Thank you very much and it feels like yesterday, 1988, the start of this craziness of Internet and so many people coming online and so on.
Anyway, I have about four minutes to talk to you about five Dynamic Coalitions, so I hope that you are holding onto your seats because this is going to be rather quick.
Anyway, the first one is the Internet Rights and Principles Coalition. That's been around for quite some time actually, and it works to uphold human rights in the online environment, and so root Internet Governance processes and systems in human rights standards.
So it does work like, raise awareness of fundamental human rights on the Internet, establish global public policy principles for an open Internet with stakeholder involvement encourage stakeholders to address human and civil rights and policy making, applying human rights to the Internet and ICTs and assessing existing structures and guidelines, protecting and enforcing human rights online.
That's just a task by itself, promoting people centric, that's important, people centric public interest in Internet Governance, and defining the duties and responsibilities of Internet users and stakeholders to preserve the public interest online.
It has produced a charter of human rights and principles back in 2011 with 21 Articles and 10 principles and it's really recommended reading. You can find it online very good work. And its contribution to the SDG's have really all come from that charter.
The next one is the Dynamic Coalition on Children's Rights in the Digital Environment, and they emphasize the importance of acknowledging children as a significant demographic in Internet Governance. At least one third of Internet users are under 18. I wasn't aware of that. It's quite amazing. And their rights must be protected says outlined in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. With the advent of AI and virtual reality, policies must prioritize children's involvement in shaping these technologies. It's their network, I guess, in the future. We are nearly gone.
Addressing potential risks and ensuring safety by design. The Global Digital Compact calls for a strengthened legal frameworks and national child safety priorities by 2030. So they have quite a lot of work to prepare for this, and child rights impact assessments or should guide legislative actions to ensure children's best interest are a primary consideration.
And in some way going from the children, widening it to young people, the Youth Coalition on Internet Governance has really worked on that, and they are bringing young people, young professionals in Internet Governance, particularly at the annual IGF and you will have seen quite a number of people from this coalition at this IGF. And it serves as a natural space for youth engagement on the issues that we have already spoken about, but a range of issues such as education, research, promotion, event organisation, and the topics focusing on amplifying youth voices in digital governance which we have heard also with the previous DC is probably not strong enough, empowering youth through digital literacy, closing the digital divide because it's not just geographical, but there is also a digital divide as far as age is concerned, prioritizing youth safety online, a huge issue as we are all aware of, leveraging technologies for social good, and holding platforms accountable, which I think is quite a task for them. And all of these efforts aim to foster a more inclusive and equitable digital landscape for young people.
Moving on on safety, there is an Internet standard security and safety coalition, the IS3C, very active as well, and their mission aligning with objective 3 of the Global Digital Compact is to enhance online security through effective deployment of security standards and best practices.
Good practice, I think, some would call it. After extensive research analysis, the coalition has developed policy recommendations, guidelines and Toolkits for global dissemination and identified best practices for capacity building in three key areas, evolution of secure by design technologies is one of them, the second one is addressing cybersecurity skills gaps and educational curricula, huge topic as well, and third, strengthening public sector procurement practice as a driver for security standards implementation.
Security is a huge topic, as you know, on the Internet, and the IS3C is considering a new work stream on consumer protection and digital trust for 2025, and to this end consumer organisations are being consulted on a project proposal to assess whether the tech industry effectively addresses the security concerns of personal and business Internet users and digital products and service design. The proposal was introduced at this IGF on day zero, so if you have missed it, you probably have to watch the recording. Or I would recommend you watch the recording.
I will finally finish with the last one which is the DC I Chair, which is the Dynamic Coalition On Core Internet Values and that promotes Internet Governance principles engaging with diverse stakeholders and ensures the Internet or tries to ensure the Internet remains a global public resource through policy recommendations, collaborations, fora, all advocating for free, secure and resilient Internet for all. Now, you might wonder what are those core Internet values. I will just list them because we can probably talk about those for another hour or so, but global, the Internet is global obviously, interoperable, open, decentralized, end to end, people from one end to the other, user centric. I think we have mentioned it with another DC earlier on. It's really important. Robust and reliable. Yes, the Internet is pretty darn robust.
And finally, secure, which is one that we had to add and that originally wasn't really thought of because the Internet, everyone knew each other, but these days you have to make sure that it is secure. So together the work of all of these Dynamic Coalitions fulfills the objective three of the GDC to the letter, and do you remember the objective, okay, I will remind you, fostering a safe, secure, and inclusive space that upholds human rights. That's what they all work on.
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>> IRENA SOEFFKY: Thank you for your applause. Very impressive work there as well. As we are running lady will not use my prerogative to ask a question first, but save my questions for later on when we will get into a discussion. With that hand it over to Mark for our next guess.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you. Let's go to objective 4, advancing responsible, equitable and interoperable data governance, and we have the pleasure of being joined to present the cluster of coalitions relating to this objective by Tatevik Grigoryan. She is a program specialist on digital information with UNESCO and is a member of the Dynamic Coalition on Internet universality indicators. So we have, I think, on this screen, yes, there are three coalitions in this cluster so over to you, Tatevik please.
>> TATEVIK GRIGORYAN: Thank you very much for presenting the objectives and the rich work that other Dynamic Coalitions are doing. Just to remind of this, of the aim of this objective is sharing a fair and digital future and this objective emphasize the importance of possible data management advocating for practices that ensure that data is collected, stored and used ethically with a strong focus on privacy and security.
I have three Dynamic Coalitions in this cluster. The first one of which, each one of them contribute to the subject through different type of work and focus. And as objective four advocates for robust governance frameworks that are transparent, accountable and inclusive involving multiple stakeholders such as Governments, Private Sector entities and civil societies, I'll mention the first Dynamic Coalition that is on digital economy that focuses on the economic dimension of objective 4, highlighting how equitable access to data and digital tools can reduce inequalities and enable sustainable growth.
For example, through initiatives like the Project Create, the coalition illustrates how responsible data use supports job creation and strengthens livelihoods addressing the GDCs called for equitable data governance that advances inclusion and economic empowerment.
So the next Dynamic Coalition that is contributing to this objective is the DC on data and artificial intelligence governance which focuses on fostering critical discussions on data and AI governance as the name implies, but it focuses on this from diverse perspectives emphasizing inclusivity and equity, and ensuring that the voices of underrepresented populations, particularly from the Global South are integrated into governance frameworks.
The coalition promotes collective studies and multistakeholder engagement to evaluate evidence and propose policy updates that reflect the realities and aspiration of stakeholders globally.
And finally, the Dynamic Coalition on Internet universality indicators that I Chair contributes to the, not only to the objective 4 actually, but to objective 1 and to other aspects of the GDC through its Internet universality of ROAM‑X indicators a few days ago at IGF we launched the universality indicators which help to address the emerging, emerging digital issues.
This tool advocates for Internet that is universal and based on principles of human rights, openness, accessibility, and governed by multistakeholder participation, and addresses cross cutting issues such as gender equality, safety and security online, environmental aspect of the Internet, and AI among others.
So this is a framework which as the objective four underscores the data driven policy making an equitable access to data that reflects diverse realities in this context the framework provides this opportunity to ensure and to support diverse stakeholders from Government to civil society and Private Sector to contribute to data driven policy making which is based on evidence.
I'll perhaps stop here.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you very much. That is a very comprehensive overview of the data conference agenda and congratulations on the updating and publication of the Toolkit, the indicators toolkit and the cross‑cutting issues, and as you say how it relates specifically to responsible data governance. It's very impressive. Maybe there will be questions or comments about that from our participants here today. Irena, back to you.
>> IRENA SOEFFKY: Last but not least, it's a pleasure to have Yao Amevi Amessinou Sossou, and he is a Research Fellow for innovation and entrepreneurship. He is a real computer scientist which I find very impressive. I'm a lawyer myself, so I know nothing about all of that in theory and practice. He has also a masters in management and direction design, something that I found particularly interesting but he will not talk about that unfortunately today, but he will concentrate on the contributions of Dynamic Coalitions to a topic that really everybody seems to be talking about at the moment, and this is enhancing global AI governance for humanity's benefit. Over to you.
>> YAO AMEVI AMESSINOU SOSSOU: Thank you for these introductions. I will try to be very short as possible because I think other colleagues from the DC are in the room and they will contribute and spend more on what I will be explaining about the four DCs. So, we also, like the other previous speakers, he are in charge of expanding on the work of four Dynamic Coalitions that have been contributing in the unique perspective and approach in addressing key issues in the Internet Governance space.
So first, regarding the Dynamic Coalition in general in the IGF, we know today that the voice, there have been progress in the voices of women in this space, but still voices of women are still underrepresented. Gender minorities, social minorities, especially in the Global South are still being underrepresented and the work of the DC on gender here is making sure that the they change this perspective by the feminists and also the intersections of coalition, different perspective into discussion on privacy, AI access, and freedom of expression for this underrepresented minority and women into contributing and meaningfully impacting discussion in this space.
Their contribution highlights the work of the DC agenda, highlights the importance of bringing women in the IGF space in contributing meaningfully into the discussions. As I said, the colleague will help me expand on details of what the DC is go doing and I move to the DC, IoT, regarding the AI expansion transversal nature of AI, the DC on IoTs is working to make sure that the AI devices that operate, the IoT devices that are produced are, we prioritize safety and security from the design and all of the different lifecycles of these IoT devices.
Their work in general highlights the importance of responsible governance in shaping the future and the benefits of those devices that we are using to that we all benefit more efficiently for these devices.
Next one we will talk about the DC on digital health. They are doing very incredible work in the space as well, and to sum up the work on the DC, I would say that they work on intersections of AI and technology.
And through their capacity building on AI and also on their active contribution to the global digital Summit and health industry, they are making sure that there is, the emphasis, I'm sorry, on the robust, on the need for robust regulations in ensuring that AI in healthcare is ethical, and transparent and impactful.
And they are building capacity, as I mentioned to help stakeholders in this space navigate the complexity of digital health innovations in that, and making sure that these innovations are responsible, and they are responsibly managed as well.
Last but not least is also the DC I'm part of. We are bringing a bottom up approach in discussion shaping the figure and our focus here is in this bottom up approach. We want to bring up the perspective of the individuals into discussion where we believe that while giving this space to the public to voice their concern, we are shaping and improving technical contributions in the space of health and technology by bringing this up front, we are in the DC have a data driven technology is actually contributing to the health DCs in healthcare and wellness.
All of this not spending more on detail because of the time we have left, I will just submit that you have all of the notice that the different DCs are focusing on key different areas in the global Internet Governance space, but they work, when you analyze it, they are actually contributing to the global spectrum in AI, tackling the issues of AI and AI governance in general if I can say so. So I will give the floor back you to. Thank you very much.
>> IRENA SOEFFKY: Thank you so much, couldn't agree more. Thank you for the applause. Wonderful. With that, I think we are at the end as you named it the download session which I think was incredibly rich and incredibly interesting. I'm so impressed of the diverse work that is ongoing, but I think with that, we are at the core of this session that is interaction and discussion and get ready everybody here in the room and online. So we hope for your questions, comments thoughts, ideas, whatever, it's open for everything.
But while you get ready to prepare your contributions, I will turn to Mark, whether you have anything to add at the moment or whether we should hand it over to our participants here and online?
>> MARK CARVELL: I think we should go straight to a discussion involving everybody here today and online, but just a word to say thanks very much to our colleagues for summarizing a vast amount of work in such an effective and comprehensive way. Many thanks indeed.
Okay. So there are also representatives of Dynamic Coalitions in the room, so if anybody has a really specific question relating to a Dynamic Coalition that is not represented by any of our colleague speakers here, there will be somebody in the room possibly who can pick it up or at least we can take it away.
If you want to put a question now in the room, it's a matter of going up to the podium over there with the microphone, I understand, is the arrangement, and I think Jutta is following what is happening online, is that right? I'm sorry, Jaoa, thank you. You heard a lot. There is a call majority of coalitions ready to engage with the DDC process and potentially with WSIS+20 review, we haven't talked on that. The focus on the DDC and sustainable development.
So what do you think? Are you assured that Dynamic Coalitions do have an important role to play within the IGF ecosystem and contributing to not only advancing the IGF's role in the follow‑up to the compact, but also the wide diversity of specific issues covered by these five objectives.
So anybody ‑‑ who wants to take first question? I see somebody coming up. Please introduce yourself briefly and then put your question or comment, suggestion, whatever it is. Okay. Thank you.
>> MAARTEN BOTTERMAN: Good morning, this is Maarten. I am also representing the Dynamic Coalition on the Internet of Things. What strikes me is that by outset this Dynamic Coalition approach is one of pulling stakeholders together to discuss issues throughout here and coming up particularly on the IGF to demonstrate what they think should be the way forward together taking into account what happened today and what needs to be in the future.
So from that perspective, I think as Dynamic Coalitions, we could contribute the best by formulating our view on our focus perspective for the specific Dynamic Coalition on how global good practice looks like taking into account where we are, what our values are, and how we go forward.
So I look forward to hear how others feel about this concept as maybe even promoting this to one of the default products outcomes of the Dynamic Coalitions this year.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, Maarten. Who wants to react, comment or add to that? Very valuable intervention. Thank you very much, Mark. I see I think it's Wout walking to the mic. Okay, after Wout and to you, Jutta, yes.
>> JUTTA CROLL: Bridging the digital divide because I do think it's very important, it's a main objective of the GDC and it's been the objective of many of the Dynamic Coalitions for many years now. And there are also is the Dynamic Coalition on Blockchain Issuance and Standardisation that is working, the Dynamic Coalition on the Interplanetary Internet that we've learned a lot during these days, how important it is.
I remember the Minister for Communication from Saudi Arabia reminding us in his opening speech that there will be more digital divides that we have been considering before when it comes to artificial intelligence and to super intelligence as he named it.
So the work of the Dynamic Coalitions that are trying to close the digital divide like the coalition on community connectivity, for example, and also the Dynamic Coalition that is measuring digital inclusion, they all contribute to achieving this main objective of digital inclusion. I think this will become more important even in the days to come, and that's my comment to that debate. Thank you, and over to you, Wout.
>> WOUT DE NATRIS: Thank you, Jutta. My name is Wout, De Natris, and I am coordinator of Internet Standard Security and Safety Coalition. In the past day I was present at two sessions around the GDC, and the people from New York from the Tech Envoy's office that were moderating and I asked them literally what should we as Dynamic Coalitions do, and what is expected from us because we are mostly volunteers working on specific topics but we have proven that we can come up with content just like we've heard from our panelists.
And after the session one of the gentlemen walked up to me and said your interventions are so tremendously important, and I made one before in a digital Town Hall because you are the only one who is speaking of content, who wants to change things and help with the implementation. Everybody else is talking about process.
So, in other words, we have a gigantic opportunity as Dynamic Coalitions to be proactive. We can set the agenda perhaps a little bit and if we wait, someone else will set the agenda for us.
My suggestion would be that as Dynamic Coalitions we make an inventory in the coming weeks what our expectations are to deliver in Oslo in June 2025. If we have that, we can communicate that to the people in New York on the Global Digital Compact saying this is what we are going to contribute.
And if we do that, we set the agenda, and we set the topics. At least in part.
So I would suggest that we do that in the coming weeks, then discuss in January how we are going to approach as we communicated and from there do our work and make sure we have output in June. And I promise as ICC we will have on post quantum cryptography, for example, sustaining the world at this moment because we are researching that in the coming six months and we will report on it. So thank you for that, but I think it's an opportunity for all DCs to promote themselves better and by default the IGF itself. Thank you.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, Wout. That's a practical proposal to look ahead to the next IGF in Norway and work towards that through building on the discussion today and taking into account all of the relevant work we've been describing here that's undertaken by the Dynamic Coalitions.
So shall I turn to Jaoa now to provide any, relay any comments online related to our discussion.
>> ONLINE MODERATOR: Greetings from Portugal. We have a couple of questions in the chat. I will start with one from Sivisimano, it is directed to Tatevik, but I believe all speakers can intervene on the question, which is on the data driven governance model mentioned particularly in the context of AI. I believe the audience wanted to hear a bit more about it, and about the project that was presented by Tatevik, so if you can provide more insight, I guess that the audience would be happy to hear about this contribution to the GDC from this particularly Dynamic Coalition.
>> MARK CARVELL: Did you want to pick that up or did you want to go back to the question? You couldn't why hear. Joao could you repeat it.
>> ONLINE MODERATOR: The question is, and I'm sure others can pick it up, but I will read it. What is the data driven governance that the speaker talked about specifically in the context of AI?
>> MARK CARVELL: Tatevik, can you pick that up in relation to AI is the key element?
>> TATEVIK GRIGORYAN: If anybody from the other Dynamic Coalitions would like to intervene, I could talk about the Internet universality indicators and how it supports this. I work on the Internet universality indicators, so the way it supports the data, it supports data‑driven policy making rather, it does have indicators on AI currently, but it's not focused only on AI. It has a focus on the right to privacy, for example, and Director General as well as part of one of its themes, but the approach here for ROAMX indicators is to collect the data and help the Governments formulate policy recommendations, including policy recommendations on AI where there are gaps and where there are opportunities in the national context and inform the policies through the national data that is, that is covered, that is collected and processed.
So this is the approach for the IUI ROAMX‑ indicator which is a multistakeholder approach. Throughout its process, it gathers and has, establishing a multistakeholder Advisory Board composed of Governments, civil society organisations, Private Sector, Academia and diverse stakeholders to also ensure that the data we collect is supported and at a later stage validated by the representatives of the stakeholder groups to ensure to the extent possible the accuracy and relevance. This is how the framework enhanced our Dynamic Coalition supports it.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you, that's very helpful. Should we go quickly back to Joao for any second point online and we will go back to the participants in the room. I'm sorry, Olivier you wanted to comment.
>> OLIVIER CREPIN LEBLOND: Yes, just to jump in, I think this question was specifically regarding the Dynamic Coalition on Data and Artificial Intelligence Governance. Luke Cabelli is Chair of the Dynamic Coalition and he is present at the IGF so if anybody is interested in those issues, I would suggest you go and find him and ask him the question. They have implemented actually they have elaborated and published a report in 2024 I can see here with 44 authors and 25 analysis of this specific topic. That's plenty of reading.
>> MARK CARVELL: Okay, Joao, do we have a second point online?
>> ONLINE MODERATOR: Directed at the whole panel, from Luis Martinez what is the you have of the panel regarding how GDC is going to benefit the work of the Dynamic Coalitions?
>> MARK CARVELL: How is the GDC going to benefit the work of the coalitions? Who would like to take that on? I mean it will certainly enhance the profile of Dynamic Coalitions in the IGF ecosystem, in the model that the coalitions provide for year‑round activity of the IGF. Olivier Crepin Leblond, do you want to cover that?.
>> OLIVIER CREPIN LEBLOND: Thank you, Mark. I was going to say ask not what the GDC can do for you. Ask what you can do for the GDC. I think in effect that's what the coalitions are working on.
>> MARK CARVELL: Very succinct. Great. Okay. Anybody in the room want to raise a new angle here? Do you want to head to the mic. That one over there maybe. Yes, thank you. And say who you are briefly.
>> AUDIENCE: I lead three Dynamic Coalitions, digital economy, digital health and environment. And I congratulate all of my Co‑Chairs and coleads for Dynamic Coalitions for the wonderful work they do. I want to, again, emphasize there are three things we have to look at the world when it comes to Internet technologies.
We should look for creating jobs, livelihood for all, and Internet for all. I think we are still 2.6 billion people not connected to the Internet as Dynamic Coalitions we have to decide I think we have indicators, so we should look at first indicators, how much did we impact in terms of livelihood creation?
How much did we connect the unconnected? I think there is a very important question raised on data and AI, so I think data has two big issues, integrity of data and integration of data and we should not prioritize intelligence away. So I think data integrity should come before artificial intelligence and last but not least a positive change, this time I don't see big tech in this. Something that I always emphasize as IGF, we are the most impactful forum for Internet technologies we should aim for a large number of small companies rather than small number of large companies to shape the jobs we want and shape the Internet we want which is Democratic. Thank you so much.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thank you very much. We are getting close to the end time ticking away.
>> IRENA SOEFFKY: We can have one more and then we slowly start wrapping up. We will take two.
>> AUDIENCE: Thank you. I'm leading the Dynamic Coalition on gaming for purpose. So I just want to add something to the discussions that we are having, Dynamic Coalitions are doing great work across sectors, but giving access to universal language, and I think giving can be integrated everywhere, and I feel there are multiple sectors and multiple areas where gamification can contribute to the social good, and that's what I wanted to add to it. Thank you.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thanks very much. One more, yes.
>> AUDIENCE: Good morning, everyone, thank you for your efforts for this great platform of IGF. I have made this intervention in previous sessions, and I would like to emphasize the importance of taking intellectual property rights into consideration in the digital environment, and I am pleased to on behalf of my organisation, creators Union of Arab to take this part on the coalitions and we take this opportunity in IGF this year to announce about launching a platform for protecting intellectual property in the digital area. It's called intellectual property verification.
So it's our place to contribute with you this part of intellectual property rights. Thank you.
>> MARK CARVELL: Thanks very much and best of luck with the launch of that platform. That's great news, I'm sure. Great contribution potentially. Okay. We better wrap up, so I think I'm going to look to Jutta and maybe Markus who is in the room, do you want to say anything? No. Okay. All right, Markus is our coordinator of the coalitions in the coordination group.
Jutta, do you want to help us wrap up today?
>> JUTTA CROLL: I tried to take notes of all of this important content and comments that we have heard and let me first say that I really like what all Olivier said about the GDC. I think bringing the GDC to life is what we have to do now, and we have learned today that Dynamic Coalitions, 31 Dynamic Coalitions are already working to implement the GDC and the five main objectives.
Let me just refer to some of the very important things we've heard. We were talking about the shares ethos of responsibility, and I do think this is like a thread that is going through the work of the Dynamic Coalitions, taking responsible for marginalized groups, for disadvantaged groups, and also for those that their voices have not been heard so far enough. We have been talking about overcoming barriers and that's also done within the collaboration of Dynamic Coalitions.
We have heard that the Internet is the young people's network, and that the GDC asks for child rights assessments in all of the work that we are doing because children are the inhabitants of the Internet world, of the digital environment, and, therefore, it is very important to follow‑up within the work of the Dynamic Coalitions.
We also have heard about the data and the importance of data, and what the Internet universality indicators are delivering is much of the basic of the work that the Dynamic Coalitions do.
It gives us orientation where we can, where we should go. We have heard a lot about safety and security, and about the standards we need for safety and security to make our work effective.
Eventually we have also heard about the importance of data driven health technology and to be honest, I can tell you look to Saudi Arabia medical services. I have had the opportunity to take that chance and it is very data driven what they are doing there. I would also like to refer the Dynamic Coalition on Data Driven Health Technologies and digital health to look at your Saudi Arabian colleagues, and I take the opportunity to thank them.
I would like to refer to what is a Dynamic Coalition. The concept of Dynamic Coalitions started 19 years ago with the first Internet Governance Forum. So we have many Dynamic Coalitions that are dating back to 2007, starting 2006, starting their work then, and it's an open concept.
So it's bottom up. Everybody who wants to join the work of Dynamic Coalitions just go to the IGF website and you will find there in terms of conditions. All of the groups, the mailing lists are open. You can go there and you can join us in our work to implement the Global Digital Compact. Thank you so much.
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>> IRENA SOEFFKY: This is my personal take away that we need more work and more impact of the Dynamic Coalitions being at the implementation of the GDC or the future work of the IGF. So this has been incredibly inspiring today. So I have lots of ideas to bring back home, and to think more about and to discuss more in detail. So thank you, everybody, and with that, over to you, Mark.
>> MARK CARVELL: What can I add to that? I think it's been a great session. I hope people who perhaps aren't aware of Dynamic Coalitions have learned a lot today about the scope and range of activities and their direct relevance to the objectives of the compact and to the sustainable development agenda, the goals the SDG's, and as I said earlier when I touched on the WSIS+20 review, and I have a shout out for the Dynamic Coalition on environment. We heard in one of the sessions today that the environmental issues will be a major element, major component of the WSIS+20 review.
And we have a Dynamic Coalition comprising experts in that very field. So that's the core message, I think, today. If you go to the IGF website, you will see the list of Dynamic Coalitions. You just go to the menu and then scroll down, and then you can hit on every coalition, maybe the ones you are particularly interested in, and you can find out a whole lot more about them, what their missions are, their Action Plans, what they are delivering in terms of tangible outcomes, and how they are engaging in wider processes such as those of the UN that are now providing the context for all of our work over the year ahead.
So let's all work together on that to ensure that Dynamic Coalitions fulfill that potential. I better stop there because we are over time, I guess, and I won't ramble on anymore. I conclude with thanks to everybody who contributed, all of the planners of the session, the technical support team here, in Riyadh, the hosts who have done a fantastic job here hosting the IGF and providing this incredible facility here for our main session this morning, and thanks to our panelists for their diligence and work at a hard pressed time to capture key elements of all of the Dynamic Coalitions that have stepped forward in the context of the GDC. Many thanks again to all of you.
Okay. I will stop there. Thank you.
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